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Info-Mac Digest             Mon,  6 Sep 93       Volume 11 : Issue 176

Today's Topics:

      [*] Replace-Existing Hacks 1.3
      "How can I get rid of Balloon help in Menu Bar?"
      "Where the Hell are the singing cats?"
      Apple Price List
      Apple Script (Q)
      AWS 95/Networking CDROMS
      BBEdit 2.5 Student Pricing Announcement
      BinHex Utility Transfer
      Changing Default Window Positions
      cut and paste (C)
      Debinhexing on a PC?
      DeskWriter/Classic II/System 7 Problem
      DiskExpress II (Q)
      Enquiry: Expandable Fields in Filemaker Pro
      Enquiry: Word5 Styles
      finder sounds for system 7? (A)
      FrameMaker 3.0.1 Updater
      FullWrite Tip
      Gatekeeper (R)
      Help CASE Software for the MAC!
      HP LaserJet 4Si MX PPD and printer driver
      HQX downloads (A)
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #175
      InterNews 1.0 - I'm Impressed??
      Kai Krause's Tips for using Photoshop
      Keyboards - how do you uninstall them?
      Listing of Speech Manager aware applications
      Looking for TechPool Software contact?
      Looking for writing/drawing package (Q)
      Macs---to leave on, or not to leave on (A)
      Macs---to leave on, or not to leave on (C)
      MacWrite Pro XTND
      Modula-2
      More fun with MacX!
      Mouse on PowerBook - Very Sloooow (Q)
      Obscure DEC Hard disk question (A)
      Pagemaker 4.2 woes, part n+1: Personal LaserWriter NTR
      Problems Printing Postscript File.
      Problem with MacX and TCP/IP, Solution
      Public Utilities Demo (C)
      Q: Util to disable AfterDark while Zterm is running
      QWK Question
      Re- Replacing a file - does it really have to work like that?
      Replacing a file...
      Soft PC Professional- V. Slow (Q)
      Sony 1320 Monitor
      Speed Beep
      SpeedyFinder (Q)
      Startup Delay
      Stiction solved (again!)
      Switching between applications (Q)
      Text search
      trash can won't un-swell
      XXENCODE/XXDECODE available for Mac?

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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 93 7:39:40 PDT
From: The Moderators <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Replace-Existing Hacks 1.3

When you try to save a file over an existing file, you get a dialog asking
"Replace Existing <filename>?"  If you wish to get rid of that dialog, or at
least change the default button, this TeachText document (in setext format)
tells several ways to do it with ResEdit.  There are separate instructions
for System 6, System 7.0, and System 7.1.

The previous version had a bug: command-period pushed the wrong button.
This version is also simpler.

 -- Jim Walker

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/make-replace-default-13.hqx; 4K]

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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 14:21:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: "How can I get rid of Balloon help in Menu Bar?"

Can someone tell me how to recover the Menu bar space now being wasted by
the little Balloon question mark?
I was forced to System 7 when the Centris came in, but have otherwise been
able to eliminate most of the cutesy things that one would not use after
day one.
There actually seems to be one positive feature of Sys 7 (though it hardly
makes up for the hits in  memory and disk requirements and in speed).  The
AliasDirector control panel helps eliminate a lot of desktop clutter. And
with PwrSwitcher, one almost regains control of his own fate by keyboard
without having to mouse around unnecessarily.  That almost makes up for
any number of things which no longer work unless you spring for more cash
for gratuitous (but not free) ungrades (oops, Freudian?) that is, upgrades.
Direct reply would be appreciated -- thanks!

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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 20:58 PDT
From: "Phil Jung, KD6SWQ" <[e-mail]>
Subject: "Where the Hell are the singing cats?"

Hey everyone,

Could one of you kind souls out there who might have recorded Letterman's
first CBS show PLEASE upload Paul Newman's infamous line, "Where the hell are
the singing cats"?

I know someonw who would kill for that sound...

Thanks!

Phil  8-)    [e-mail]
Institute for Information Storage Technology
Santa clara University.

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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 93 10:36:38 PST
From: Tim Castle <[e-mail]>
Subject: Apple Price List

Could I prevail on someone who has the most recent Apple Price List in
electronic form to e-mail it to me? Our accounts payable people have royally
screwed up our AppleLink payments for the time being, and I'm without access
to
the latest prices. The last list I have is dated 6/14 or 6/14, I think.

Much thanks,

Tim Castle       [e-mail]
End-User Computing, GTE Gov't Systems, Mountain View, CA

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Date: 06 Sep 1993 07:13:36 +0100 (MET)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Apple Script (Q)

Is Apple Script just a set of language commands that can be integrsated in
programming code or is there also a command line interface available with it?

Jens Eickhoff
([e-mail])

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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 93 12:07:02 EDT
From: Layne Johnson <[e-mail]>
Subject: AWS 95/Networking CDROMS

We will soon begin networking several CD-ROMs using an Apple Workgroup Server
95
and we would be interested in hearing from anyone with experience doing this.
We
plan to daisy-chain four Apple CD300 CD-ROM drives off of the server.  The
Workgroup Server 95  is running System 7.0.1 and  AppleShare Pro 1.0.1b1.
We experienced problems previously when we tried to daisy-chain more than 1
CD-ROM drive using a Mac IIci.  On the IIci, a single Apple CD300 drive
functioned perfectly, but when we connected 2-6 drives the machine would
freeze
up, give frequent error messages, or would not boot up at all. The SCSI ID
numbers were unique and a SCSI terminator was in place at the end of the
chain.
This problem surfaced on several IIci's we tried. Any comment on our upcoming
project on the Workgroup Server 95  or our past experience on the IIci's is
welcomed.
Thank you.

Mike Wuenscher
[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1993 00:49:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Bare-Bones Software)
Subject: BBEdit 2.5 Student Pricing Announcement

Bare-Bones Software, the creators and publishers of the popular text
editors BBEdit 2.5 and BBEdit Lite, are pleased to announce that
BBEdit 2.5 is now available at a special discounted price for
students.

If you are a high school, college undergraduate, or college postgraduate
student, and you can provide proof of your current student status, you
can obtain BBEdit 2.5 for just $29 plus shipping and handling.

This student price will remain in effect through December 31, 1993.

If you would like to try out BBEdit 2.5, a demo package is available
for anonymous FTP from world.std.com, in /ftp/pub/bbedit/bbedit-25-demo.hqx.
It can also be found on sumex.stanford.edu, in /info-mac/demo.

For specific ordering information, write to the address above, or send
e-mail to "[e-mail]" in the Internet, or 73051,3255 on CIS.

Rich Siegel, Principal Software Designer
Bare-Bones Software
Internet: [e-mail]
CIS: 73051,3255

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Date: Sat, 04 Sep 93 13:04:16 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: BinHex Utility Transfer

On Fri, 3 Sep, Anders Stegen wrote:

>And how do I transfer a BinHex utility to my Mac from another
>computer if I don't have it?
>You don't. You have to get a copy of it on a Mac-formatted floppy.

Uh, not quite true, Anders. A friend at West Virginia University called
asking if I knew how to get a copy of the Stuffit Lite shareware program.
We each fired up NCSA Telnet, authorized FTP and MacBinary, and I "put"
the installer SEA on his hard disk (binary option).

I think that worked because maybe a Stuffit SEA has only one fork. Or it
was NCSA Telnet on each side encoding/decoding MacBinary on the fly. Or
it was a combination of dumb luck and black magic.

It is amazing how much I can do without understanding butkus.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 15:55:27 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Ken Linger)
Subject: Changing Default Window Positions

Is there a way (extension or something) to modify the default
position of windows automatically open by applications that don't
record where the window was when it was closed?  More specifically,
the screen it was on?

I'm using a Mac SE/30 and have an external 24 bit color.  For programs
that don't need a big, color screen, ie, usually things like status
displays, I'd like them to default to the internal 1 bit monitor since
things will update faster there and also stay out of the way.
Unfortunately, many of these programs, such as UUPC, don't save where
the window was when it was closed/quit and the next time it is run,
it jumps back to the default monitor, the 24 bit color screen.  I'm
away of extensions that change the depth when an application is run
or switched to, but if one screen is already and always 1 bit, I'd
rather things defaulted to it.

Thanks for any help/advice.

Ken Linger
[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 05:50:58 GMT
From: Sven Guckes <[e-mail]>
Subject: cut and paste (C)

>There is a commercial product called Multiclip (from Olduvai) that can be
>obtained from most mail order companies. It allows multiple clipboards and
>you can "paste the whole lot" by using the "sequential paste " option (after
>re-sequencing the order, should you wish).

So - how much is that "MultiClip" thing?
Is it an application, an init, or a cdev?
Does it come with a manual, women, or coke?
How big is it?

More info, please!

Sven :)  [Ceterum censeo - this is a FAQ thing!]

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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 93 15:06:35 MET
From: Wolfgang Hammerschmidt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Debinhexing on a PC?

Hi everybody!

Quiet recently the PC machines in our mixed environment (with respect to Macs
and PCs) got access to E-mailing on the internet. Luckily, I stick to my Mac
but others with DOS-PCs ran into a serious problem. Occasionally, binhexed
enclosures attached to E-mail messages from Macintosh computers end up on the
PCs which cannot (at least to my knowledge) decoded on PCs. I find the
situation amusing but I do not want to help out for the next couple of years.
Does anybody know of a program which runs on a DOS-PC which is able to decode
binhexed files? I am almost certain that something like that must exist but I
could not find any hints on the internet!?

Please send information directly to me ([e-mail]) I will
summarize and post it to the net.

Hoping that this is not a FAQ,

Wolfgang

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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 93 08:42:16 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Carol Conti-Entin)
Subject: DeskWriter/Classic II/System 7 Problem

...trying to help the Free [Medical] Clinic again.  They have an HP
DeskWriter, bought in 1990, that works fine with their SEs running System
6.0.7.  Trouble is, they now need to pair it with their Classic II (4M RAM)
running System 7.0.1.  It works--to a point: it'll print several fine
pages or a partial page, but then complain about "Datacomm buffer overrun
 - no DTR handshaking." The HP manual says that means "...there is a
problem with the interface cable or the interface connection," but I've
now done enough testing with different cables, ports, and machines to be
satisfied that even with a fine cable and fine interface connection, the
problem persists: it quits printing after <1 page or a few pages.

My current hypothesis: the HP driver may be too old (1990) to know what to
do with System 7.  So I just downloaded the DeskWriter 4.0 driver.  BUT,
according to the enclosed documentation, if I install it, most of their
(quite old) software will no longer work, and they can't afford to upgrade
all that software.

Is my hypothesis (that the problem is a too-old DeskWriter driver) correct?
If so, what is the earliest version of the DeskWriter driver that will work
with System 7.0.1 (and, we hope, with most of their old software)?  If not,
do you have other ideas about what could be the problem?  Can a Classic II
run with System 6.0.7?  Would that help?

Thanks in advance for your help.

--
Carol Conti-Entin  2878 Chadbourne Road, Shaker Heights, OH 44120-2215
216-561-8720   Internet: [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 21:07:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Thoo <[e-mail]>
Subject: DiskExpress II (Q)

I've been using DEII to defrag my hard discs for some time, now, and am
quite happy with it.  The thing is that I don't let DEII do its stuff
automatically; instead, I run DEII manually so that I'm around in case
anything goes wrong.  My question is, Am I being silly?  Those of you
who use DEII, Do you trust it _completely_ to do its stuff unattended?
Thanks.

--John.
<[e-mail]>    ``My _real_ word processor is FullWrite.''

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Date: Fri, 03 Sep 93 17:24:50 BST
From: Donald Peterson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Enquiry: Expandable Fields in Filemaker Pro

I'd like to use FileMaker Pro to manage the address & phone numbers in
my Filofax. The trouble is that people have varying numbers of phone
and fax numbers (between one and four), and I'd rather not have blank
fields being printed out as they take up a lot of space. Is there a
way of getting FileMaker to print fields conditionally on their being
filled?  Or is there a way of getting it to expand the field _and_
print the expanded version when extra lines are added (so all the
phone numbers would go in one field)?

And can FileMaker then print the results in Fiilofax sized pages,
perhaps two per A4 page?

If FileMaker can't do all this, is there something else which can?

Many thanks for any info,

DMP,

email: [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 03 Sep 93 17:33:31 BST
From: Donald Peterson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Enquiry: Word5 Styles

We all know that WYSIWYG has many advantages over something like
LaTeX. But something LaTeX does very well is to separate the data-file
>From the style-file. Thus an author can supply a book as a data-file
in standard LaTeX, and the editor just invokes a style-file which
re-defines styles and settings and so changes the appearance of the
text to the required house style. The style-file redefines the
standard styles, the tab stop length, the standard line spacing, page
size, style of headers and footers, etc.

Is there a neat way of doing this in Word5? I found the trick of
opening a template file while in the Define Styles dialogue box ... so
the styles of the template file override those already defined. But
can the other settings also be imposed together with these?

DMP,

email: [e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 93 00:15:50 CDT
From: [e-mail] (Robert Winston)
Subject: finder sounds for system 7? (A)

 > On my old Mac, running under system 6, I ran a freeware
 > program from Greg Smith called Finder Sounds, a program that
 > was not only amusing (whooshing space noises when closing
 > windows) but very useful (piano tinkling when file copying was
 > completed, an audio clue to return to work).  Much to my
 > dismay, this program doesn't want to function on my Powerbook
 > under system 7, and I miss it greatly.  Does anyone know of an
 > upgrade or similar program that can fill this void?

You want SndControl.

At Umich:
/sound/soundutil/soundmanagerpackage1.8c.cpt.hqx

  Robert E. Winston       [e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 23:12:52 -0400
From: [e-mail] (William Homer Waits)
Subject: FrameMaker 3.0.1 Updater

A friend of mine who does not have Internet access had told me that
there was a FrameMaker 3.0.1 Updater.  I have looked at all of the
popular sites for him to no avail.  Does such a beast exist?  If so
could someone either post it to Info-Mac or e-mail me a copy (binhqx)?
Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.

--Bill

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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 93 09:23:34 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: FullWrite Tip

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> Here's a FullWrite tip I just learned from the kind folks at Akimbo:
>
> Holding down the Shift key while copying or cutting (equivalently,
> pressing cmd-shft-c or cmd-shft-x) *appends* the selection to the current
> Clipboard contents.  And option-paste (or cmd-opt-v) swaps the selection
> with the clipboard.  Wow!
>
> --John.
> <[e-mail]>  ``My _real_ word processor is FullWrite.''

Of course, Nisus also supports Append Cut, Append Copy, and Swap Paste,
and since Nisus changes its menus on the fly to reflect the modifier
keys you're holding down, you can actually see the right menu commands.
:-)

Sorry, I couldn't resist. Nonetheless, it's great to hear that FullWrite
has this capability and that Akimbo has picked it up after Borland
let it rot for so long.

cheers ... -Adam

(Don't expect prompt responses for several weeks until I finish the book.)
   Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 13:04:39 -0600 (CDT)
From: Andrew Vernon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Gatekeeper (R)

Don't Panic! <[e-mail]> asked us:

>Dear Netters,
>Where can I get Gatekeeper in its complete version?  Is it available via
>Gopher or FTP?  I have seen that there are files at Sumex-aim, but the last
>time I tried them, they appeared to be simple update-patches.

Gatekeeper has never distributed updates as patches.  When a new release
comes out, you have to get the entire package.  You should find the latest
release in /info-mac/virus or on Gatekeper's home site, emx.utexas.edu.

>P.S. If there is a new version of Gatekeeper out, when will Disinfectant 3.2
>be updated?

Not until the next virus hits.  The Gatekeeper update was a bug-fix and an
effort to keep a message saying "Your software's out of date" from
cropping up.  The whole story is in the latest issue of TidBITS, if you're
interested.

Andrew Vernon
[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 93 10:49 AST
From: LUIS HERNANDEZ <[e-mail]>
Subject: Help CASE Software for the MAC!

    This is my first try at posting anything I hope this works!
    I am looking for CASE (Computer Aided Software Engineering) Software
    fro the Macintosh. I study Computerized Information Systems at the
    University o
 Puerto Rico and they have various programs for IBM compatibles that do this
 but none are available for MAC computers. I would prefer a shareware/freeware
 program since I'm still a student.
    Please send mail directly to [e-mail], I will
 gladly post later the information sent to me...

                            Thanks in advance...
                            Luis R. Hernandez

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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 16:49:59 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Martin Jourdan)
Subject: HP LaserJet 4Si MX PPD and printer driver

I just downloaded from info-mac the Hewlett-Packard LaserJet version 8
printer driver and utility.

1. The HP driver seems very close to the new Apple/Adobe PostScript v8
printer driver (PPDs, level 2, 1/2/4up printing, etc.).  Does anyone know
if there is any significant difference between those beasts (apart from the
icon, of course)?

2. I only have the HP LJ III Si PPD, which does not let me alter the
resolution (the III Si is only 300dpi, whereas the 4 Si is 300 and 600).
Could any good guy send me and/or post to Info-Mac the 4 Si PPD ?  Many
thanks in advance.

Martin Jourdan, Projet ChLoE', INRIA, Rocquencourt, France

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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1993 23:35 EST
From: Don't Panic! <[e-mail]>
Subject: HQX downloads (A)

For anyone who is still stumped,
I was once too about HQX formats and how to get downloads to convert
>From HQX to something usable.  Here is the answer.  HQX files that arrive on
a
download onto your Mac should always be TEXT format.   Never convert these to
binary format, as all the conversion codes are in the HQX TEXT files
(essentially written in a skewed ASCII).  HQX
files are easiest read using either a BinHex 4.0 converter (like Compact Pro
1.33 ($25 Shareware)),
or Stuffit Expander 3.0.1 (free)
 or later.  The application used to read these HQX
files varries (sp?) from download to download.  Thus it is wise to have both
Stuffit and a Binhex 4.0 reader on your hard disk, if you plan to do many
downloads from the archives.  A very few files will have .sit that can also be
decompressed using Stuffit Expander.
Some downloads will have .Zip as an extension, which can be extracted using
ZipIt 1.1.1 ($10 Shareware).

 Other downloads have a .GIF extension. The .GIF format is the
Graphics Interchange Format for most desktop Machines.  GIFConverter 2.2.10
($40 Shareware) can be used to read these files as direct downloads from
archives around the world.  This software will then convert the document to
the native PICT, TIFF or other graphics formats that fit Macintosh
Paint/Draw/Desktop Publishing software.

Disclaimer: I have used each of these softwares on my machine, and have
encountered small bugs which are usually the result of an error-full download,
or corrupted archive files.  These shareware packages are written here only as
example packages that can help in downloading from archives over FTP, Gopher,
and Telnet. Others may be equally or better suitable for one's needs, that I
have yet to encounter.

Hope this helps,
Even though by some eyes this question may appear to be a FAQ.
Sincerely,
[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1993 07:20:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kermit's Buddy! <[e-mail]>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #175

>Oh Great Info-Macers :)
>        Does anybody know of a way to partition one HD into 2 separate
>        Macintosh
>Hard drives.. The reason being I would like one partition to carry Programs.
>(A
>partition I can lock down) and a second partition to use as a "data" portion
>(as in saving word processing files, etc)
>     I can get the HD partitioned into 2 parts, but only one of them can be
>counted as a Macintosh Volume, the other I have to use for "scratch" needless
>to say this is not quite what i was wanting to do. :) What tools are
>neccessary
>to accomplish this great feat?
>     Thank you in advance.. :)
>         Joshua <[e-mail]>  <[e-mail]>
>
>P.S. Certainly is this not an FAQ, or is it? :^)
>

Josh,

I have a utility called 'DriverMaker' that will allow you to do what you
want. You can create the partitions (both MAC system) then use the apple
HD setup app. to UPDATE them to the proper junk. (they will go back to
looking like 'real' Apple disks, assuming that you have an Apple HD.
Take a look at M-1 & M-2 -- how do you think that I did it? :-)

The reason that I sent this to the net -- is that the Apple HD Setup
program does NOT allow you to partion the HD as two HFS disks. At least
not that I am aware of. I thought that some of you might be interested
in the answer, also.


-Bob Martin -- [e-mail] or [e-mail]

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Date: 5 Sep 93 16:43:51 GMT
From: [e-mail]..s1.cs.man.ac.uk (stu)
Subject: InterNews 1.0 - I'm Impressed??

Hi...

I've just downloaded a copy of InterNews from Dartmouth College,
I have to say, I'm Very Impressed.

Neat Interface, Hasn't Crashed, Excellent Help...

Not bad for a 1.0 version, These guys get it right first time!!!

Maybe as a Fetch user, I'm biased!!!

Check it out!!

-Paul Stewart, Apple & UNIX System Administrator
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 09:44:22 +0100
From: [e-mail] (M.J. Ratcliffe)
Subject: Kai Krause's Tips for using Photoshop

I just received a note from KPT Support regarding my submitting Kai
Krause's photoshop tips.

Tip #13 contains some information about a special CD offer. This offer
expired in November and so is no longer valid.

Could you please post this information immediately to avoid either
kptsupport or Kai himself being deluged with requests for more information.
Thanks.

--michael

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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 06:15:55 GMT
From: Sven Guckes <[e-mail]>
Subject: Keyboards - how do you uninstall them?

A long time ago I wrote:
>Even if I assume that my system got so used to the German layout that it
>won't give it away that easily - there's a whole lot of keyboards more
>in the system of my IIvx that at least one of them could have the decency
>to show up.

Well, those keyboards finally showed up!

I expected to see those "keyboards" listed before the sounds ("Klang").
Unfortunately, the name for keyboard in German is "Tastatur" and thus
they got translated to "Tastaturerweiterungen" (keyboard extensions).
So I found them between the sounds and the fonts ("Zeichensaetze").

I think I knew why I wanted that US version right away.

Sven :)

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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1993 03:57:03 -0400
From: Joe Campbell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Listing of Speech Manager aware applications

Here are some of the Speech Manager aware applications that I know of
(there are more on the Apple Developer CD-ROMs).   If I've missed some,
please feel free to add to the list and also let me know if you disagree
with my "Comments."

If anyone has a Speech Manager aware app that allows graphical
specification of pitch and rate trajectories, I'd love to hear about it.

Joe
.............................................................................
; Dr. Campbell  N3JBC  [e-mail]  [e-mail] ;
; My opinions are mine!   Happiness = Reality - Expectations, Click & Clack ;
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Application        Source            Comments
_______________   ________  _________________________________________________
Fortune 1.1       info-mac  Like a talking UNIX fortune command - slick
Tex-Edit 1.8.5    info-mac  Talking word processor, McSink like, modeming
Speecher 1.2      info-mac  Customizable word substitution
So To Speak 1.0b5 info-mac  Two voice conversation (also see Fortune's About)
Speaker 1.0 (8/19)info-mac  Simple text file editor, speaks on <CR>, macros
VoiceDemo 1.0     info-mac  Bare bones phrase talker
Welcome!v1.3.1      AOL     A talking Welcome to Macintosh startup
Speech Rhythms      AOL     A cool text file for one of the above apps:

ss  cc cc tt  cc cc cc cc cc cc cc
ss  cc cc tt  cc cc ra ra ra,,,

Here are a few rhythms I came up with.  Drop me a line and let me know how you
ll ll ll ll ll like them.
Ken Lacovara,,,

Bossa Nova,
xx   xx   xx    xx  xx     xx   xx   xx    xx  xx     xx   xx   xx    xx
xx     xx   xx   xx    xx  xx

Conga,
xx     xx     xx    xx       xx     xx     xx    xx       xx     xx     xx
xx       xx     xx     xx    xx

Jazz,
xx   xx  xx xx    xx  xx xx    xx  xx xx  xx xx  xx xx    xx  xx xx    xx  xx
xx    xx  xx xx  xx xx  xx xx

Rock,
tt      xx  tt      tt   xx  tt      tt   xx  tt   tt   tt   xx     tt
xx  tt      tt   xx  tt      tt   xx  tt   tt   tt   xx

Military,
cc cc cc cc cc    cc cc cc cc cc    cc cc cc cc cc    cc    cc    cc cc cc cc
cc    cc    cc  cc  cc  cc  cc    cc    cc
,,,,,
That's ebedee ebedee ebedee ebedee all folks!
pp   pp  pp  pp   pp      pp   pp

------------------------------

Date: Fri,  3 SEP 93 20:53:58 PDT
From: ""Micro Mauler"" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Looking for TechPool Software contact?

I am looking for a Mac application that reads in plain postscript
files and outputs encapsulated postscript files. A pointer was
given to a product named Transverter-Pro by TechPool Software,
but no address nor phone number was provided.

     Any help will be appreciated.  --Len Schwer  [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 05 Sep 93 13:37:42 CDT
From: "M.Eaton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Looking for writing/drawing package (Q)

Hi everybody-
I'm looking for a small app with very simple text and drawing capabilities.
I'd like to use it on my PowerBook as a note-taker. I need the drawing
tools for simple diagrams, etc.

I looked at Power-Notes, but I didnt like the interface or hypercard.
Any other suggestions?

Mark

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 11:28:17 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Shannon Thornburg)
Subject: Macs---to leave on, or not to leave on (A)

> I've read (here, in fact, I believe) that it's not a bad idea to leave
> one's Mac on all the time because powering it up each time stresses its
> circuits.  But in the Oct93 Macworld [p.139], Jim Heid states, ``Leaving
> a Mac on 24 hours a day ... shortens a hard drive's life.''  Hmm ... that
> sort of puts me between a rock and a hard place, it seems: switching my
> Mac off/on each day is good for the hard drive, but not so good for the
> circuits; leaving it on 24 hours is good for the circuits, but not so
> good for the hard drive.  My question is, What's my best strategy?
> To leave my Mac on all the time, or not?  (Presently, I leave my Mac on
> 24 hours, but switch off the (external) monitor at night.)  Thanks.

Stanford distributes a small brochure on energy conservation to all its
students, called "Guide to Environmentally Sound Living at Stanford."  In
it is a fairly lengthy and detailed discussion of this problem, written by
Timothy Oey, an Apple engineer.  He suggests that you should turn your Mac
off if it will not be used for more than 8 hours. In fact, if you turn it
on and off once per day, it is likely to survive twice as long as if you
leave it on continuously.  In fact, an argument can be made for cycling the
computer on/off often during your first year, so that any defect will be
more likely to show up while your warranty is intact.  (Note the liberal
use of the word "likely."  This is all based on statistics.)

Either way, the computer will probably become obsolete long before it
fails, so it isn't really something to worry about much.  Your approach of
turning off the monitor saves considerable energy.  Go ahead and turn your
CPU off over night also.

If anyone wants more information, send e-mail.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 6 Sep 93 08:39:07 +0200
From: "Olaf F. Normann" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Macs---to leave on, or not to leave on (C)

Hello!

> My pal John Thoo [e-mail] writes in Digest 174:
> >I've read (here, in fact, I believe) that it's not a bad idea to leave
> >one's Mac on all the time because powering it up each time stresses its
> >circuits.  But in the Oct93 Macworld [p.139], Jim Heid states, ``Leaving
> >a Mac on 24 hours a day ... shortens a hard drive's life.''  Hmm ...

What about all the unix machines around the world which is always running.
Thats the typical habit regarding these machines. Of course unix
takes longer time to start up, but if it was a real problem for the hardware
if the machines was running all the time, I guess that the habit would
change... :(

Not to mention all the servers, both Macintosh and unix and DOS and....

I dont think it is any significant difference in quality between
typically unix machines and Macintoshes and ... whatever.

But it would be a good idea either to turn off the power on the monitor,
or, (better:) install a small screen saver (f.i. BasicBlack).

Best regards
Olaf F. Normann,
System admin.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 21:49:13 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Ken B Kirksey)
Subject: MacWrite Pro XTND

Does anyone know if Claris has released an XTND translator for the
MacWrite Pro format?  If so, where can I get a copy?  Many thanks
in advance,

                  Ken

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 4 Sep 93 10:27:04 CEST
From: Alfredo Todini <[e-mail]>
Subject: Modula-2

I need a Modula-2 compiler for the Macintosh. Does anybody know where I
could find the MacMETH Modula-2 system developed by the Federal Institute
of Technology(ETH), Zurich? Thanks.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 4 Sep 93 01:12:31 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Wonko the Sane)
Subject: More fun with MacX!

Well, I've finally gotten one of those much coveted SLIP connections, and
wish to try to run the battered copy of MacX 1.1.7 that we occasionally
implement at work over this connection.  It always says there are no
functioning
tools, although I've got the TGE-TCP tool plugged into my CTB, MacTCP is
properly configured, and the SLIP connection (using InterSLIP) has been
firmly attatched in the background.  Am I still missing something?

Eric Oehler
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 3 Sep 93 15:24:15 BST
From: A.D'[e-mail]
Subject: Mouse on PowerBook - Very Sloooow (Q)

I have tried plugging my regular Mac mouse into my PB180 and have found it
extremely slow moving around the screen. The mouse CP was set at it
fastest. Does anyone know how to cure this problem?

Tony D'Emanuele, University of Manchester.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1993 13:08:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Eric Burger)
Subject: Obscure DEC Hard disk question (A)

Forwarded message from Elliot Bennett:
> Extra bonus prize to the person who figures this out:
>
> We have a DEC RZ-420 SCSI hard disk which we would like to connect to a
mac.
> Apparently the thing won't spin up.  According to our (not always entirely
> reliable) DEC sources, DEC machines send their hard disks a "spin up"
> command.
I have a DEC RZ-58 (Micropolis 1508).  The difference between the DEC
and Micropolis stock PROM's is that the sense of the "Power-on Spin-Up"
jummper is reversed.  On the RZ-58, no jummper means "wait for spin-up
command", whereas on the Micropolis labeled drive, no jumper means
"spin-up on power on".
--
Eric Burger
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 03 Sep 93 10:05:47 CST
From: "Juan M. Courcoul" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Pagemaker 4.2 woes, part n+1: Personal LaserWriter NTR

Colleagues,

A few months/weeks back, I wrote regarding problems printing from PageMaker
4.2 to a LaserWriter II/f, using the LaserWriter 8.0 driver. Thanks to the
suggestion from several fellow readers, the solution we've used is to disable
PageMaker's own printer driver and route directly via Apple's, pressing the
Option key before selecting the Print command.

However, the problem now reasserts itself. In the process of expanding the
installed printer base, we've purchased several Personal LaserWriter NTR's.
To summarize their performance with PM: YOU CAN'T PRINT ON THEM ! Here's a
list of what I've tried so far:

* Got the latest PPD from Adobe.
* Tried using LW 8.0:
  - Without Option, issues a "cannot print, lost contact with printer" error
    message, and the printer resets, producing the startup page.
  - With Option, arbitrarily crops off the first few inches from the top
    and left sides of the print image, leaving a blank gap at the bottom
    and right.
* Tried using LW 7.1.2:
  - Without Option, issues a Postscript error message, "configuration error,
    Offending Command: setpagedevice".
  - With Option, after AGES, produces a printout with the left and right
    margins cropped off (beyond the margins set on the document).
* Tried using LW 7.1.1 (Spanish version):
  - Without Option, issues the same Postscript error as 7.1.2.
  - With Option, produces output with the same cropping error as 7.1.2
* Generating a Postscript file with LW 8.0 and dumping it with the LW Utility
  resulted in a totally mangled output. Fonts and text placement were not
  respected, the image was cropped arbitrarily and paper size was not
  maintained.

All this was done with a 16 page document set on US Legal paper size. We used
both a PowerBook 180 and a LC II, with System 7.1 in both US and Spanish
versions. The 7.1.1 Spain driver was the one included on the software disks
with the printer.

Could anybody who has successfully printed large-sized documents set in
PageMaker 4.2 on a Personal LW NTR please tell me how it is done ?
(I should mention that the same document, on the SAME machine was
successfully printed at the first try on a LaserWriter II/f, with LW 8.0)

Thanks in advance for your help.

Juan Courcoul
Monterrey Tech
Queretaro Campus

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 5 Sep 93 20:39:55 EDT (0039Z)
From: MG John Fryer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Problems Printing Postscript File.

  I need help in determining how to print a postscript file of the  Internet
  I downloaded from ftp. merit. edu last night (called world.  ps).  I  have
  tried printing with the utility, "SendPS, " but it tells me  it  "Couldn't
  open the printer driver"  and  that  there  is  a  "Chooser  error:  can't
  determine the name of the printer. " My  LaserWriter  II  NTX  is  working
  fine with my other applications. I've tried other ways of viewing this  ps
  file, but my postscript graphics programs won't open it  (says  "offending
  command"). Moreover, Ready, Set, Go won't import it. Does  anyone  have  a
  suggestion as to how I can print this file? I might also ask why,  when  I
  save a scanned file  as  EPS  from  my  HP  Scanjet  Plus,  it  also  says
  "offending command" when I try to  open  it  with  a  postscript  graphics
  program like Adobe Illustrator. Many thanks.

------------------------------

Date: 06 Sep 1993 07:09:03 +0100 (MET)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Problem with MacX and TCP/IP, Solution

I recently posted the following problem to this bulletin board and I just
wanted to thank all persons that gave me hints to solve the problem:

>I am working with a Mac IIci connected to an Ethernet with DEC and Sun
>workstations. I use MacX (delivered with our DEC Pathworks 1.2 environment)
to
>login to the workstations. It poses no problem to run DEC Windows sessions
>with MacX connected to a DEC Station or VAX as long as I use DECNet a
>communication protocol.

>I have also TCP/IP protocoll running on the Mac (Mac TCP delivered also with
>the Pathworks environment), but each time I try to change the protocol of a
>MacX command from DECNet to TCP/IP, after building up the window to input the
>TCP settings (node to connect to, etc) the Mac just produces an error sound
>and the panel returns to the DECNet menu.

The real problem turned out to be a wrong IP number that I was given by our
system operator. This IP number already was in use. From some folks I got the
hint to upgrade to MacTCP 2.0.3, although MacTCP 1.1.1 works correctly with
MacX. I did upgrade and the 2.0.3 version reports the errors in clear messages
instead of only producing the error-sound. After correcting the IP address it
perfecly worked.

Again thanks a lot to all who helped,


Jens Eickhoff
([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 17:32:07 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Martin Jourdan)
Subject: Public Utilities Demo (C)

In Info-Mac Digest Volume 11, Issue 167, dated Tue, 24 Aug 93, John Antolak
writes about Public Utilities:
>I am now considering PU to supplement the NU on my disk. Can anyone tell me
>how (un)obtrusive it is? I would probably want it to run in the background.
>The ads imply that a dialog box comes up every time an error is found,
>which could be annoying. Can it be set to automatically fix some minor
>types of errors (like bad dates), and just log a record of the repair to a
>file?

Since I am the veru happy owner of Public Utilities, I can answer this
(although a bit lately, sorry).

The background-running component of PU is called Prevention. It is
absolutely unobtrusive if the disk is OK, because it performs a detect-only
scan, relying on PU itself if it finds something wrong (when this happens,
it indeeds pops up an alert/dialog box proposing to launch PU's Disk
Repair). So you may find this annoying. In addition, (erxcept from the
manual) "Prevention does not check for minor, non-data threatening errors,
such as bad modification dates, or problems which take a lot of memory to
check".

If you want complete background, automatic repairs, see MacTools. It does
exactly what you want (repair what it can and log errors), however I found
background operation more obtrusive and not very reliable (i.e. the
scheduler often fails); in addition it's much slower than PU.

To come back to Prevention, it's really unobtrusive: you can set the amount
of CPU it takes when scanning, it starts only when the Mac is idle and it
stops as soon it detects keyboard/mouse activity.

I hope this helps.

Martin Jourdan, Projet ChLoE', INRIA, Rocquencourt, France

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 22:42:32 -0400
From: "Adam P. Conn" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Q: Util to disable AfterDark while Zterm is running

I'm looking for a util to disable AfterDark or any screen saver while I'm
downloading, but to not completely turn it off. Any help?

--Adam

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 16:39:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeff Linder <[e-mail]>
Subject: QWK Question

(Please respond privately, I don't always read the digest, of course,
replies can be cross posted to the digest for people who want to know)

I'm having a problem with QWK packets.  I am using Alice to read QWK mail
>From two local boards, and have no problems reading..  However, the boards
can not seem to understand my reply packets, no matter if I pseudo-zip,
pseudo-arj, or Tu-Nix them...  Anyone have this problem and know how to
solve it?

Or another program (NOT Freddie, doesn't work on my syste,m, which is a
Mac SE, system 7.1, 90 megs HD, 4 meg ram)

Thanks!


Jeff

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 18:54:27 GMT
From: [e-mail] (William C. DenBesten)
Subject: Re- Replacing a file - does it really have to work like that?

Date: Wed, 1 Sep 93 21:12 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <[e-mail]>

> I'm not sure if there is a moral to this tale of woe (okay, make more than
> one backup, I know, I know!), but there are queries: when replacing a file,
> why does the Finder delete the original before slapping on the new version?
> Would it not be better (albeit maybe a bit slower) to do things the _other_
> way round?  How do other operating systems do it?

This is not really an operating systems issue, but rather an issue that
deals with the individual application (in this case, the finder).  Most
word processors save the file to a temporary name before deleting the
original file.  The finder does not do this.  IMHO, the best way for the
finder to do this would be to move the original file to the trash before
copying the file.  I mentioned this to Developer Support once.  Their
response was "great idea".  The result was, new version; no change in
behavior.

BTW, It turns out that there is a call in the operating system to swap the
contents of two files while keeping all the appropriate catalog information
(creation date, type, creator, etc) the same.  This makes swapping files
really easy.

--
William C DenBesten is [e-mail] or bgsuopie.bitnet

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 5 Sep 93 09:39:37 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Replacing a file...

> Today I tried to replace an MS Word document on my hard disk with a newer
> version saved on a floppy.  The usual dialog box came up; I clicked OK
> and the copy proceeded.  Halfway through came that dreaded pause, the hum
> of the floppy drive changed, then the dialog box, "The copy could not be
> completed because a disk error occured".  What had happened of course was
> that the floppy had developed bad blocks.  What had also happened (of
> course?) was that the document on my hard disk had been deleted but no
> new version put in its place.  So there I was, with only a damaged,
> unreadable document on my floppy...and nowhere else.

Once, using WriteNow 1.0x and a DA called AutoSave, on a Mac Plus
with two floppies, I had something like that happen. I was alternately
saving to either floppy as a working backup, and AutoSave would kick
in every few minutes as well. WriteNow deletes the file before it
saves the new one, but on one save, it ran out of space on the floppy,
so it failed to save a new copy after deleting the original. This
so confused it that it crashed, corrupting the document in memory
and on the other floppy. I was livid, but luckily WriteNow documents
are fairly easy to recover and I was at the time relatively proficient
with F-Edit (this is at least five years ago). So I recovered my 15
page philosophy paper and then set up a system that had the file on
three disks, one of which was always out of the Mac. :-)

Another time I saved a 5K WriteNow document with the same name as
a 4 MB database (I knew I was replacing something, so I didn't read
the warning dialog). It took me a weekend to recover the database.

So, yes, I agree that this design is a MAJOR problem at times.

> I'm not sure if there is a moral to this tale of woe (okay, make more than
> one backup, I know, I know!), but there are queries: when replacing a file,
> why does the Finder delete the original before slapping on the new version?
> Would it not be better (albeit maybe a bit slower) to do things the _other_
> way round?  How do other operating systems do it?

Hey, I've got a better solution yet! Why doesn't the Mac simply MOVE
the old file to the Trash, then write the new one? Sure, it wouldn't
work with big files, but then you could get a message saying that
there wasn't enough room unless you emptied the Trash on that floppy.
Seems perfectly reasonable to me. I'd also recommend TrashMan to automatically
empty the trash of items that have been in there for a certain number
of days.

cheers ... -Adam


--
Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 3 Sep 93 15:24:21 BST
From: A.D'[e-mail]
Subject: Soft PC Professional- V. Slow (Q)

I have just upgraded from SoftAT 2.5 to Soft PC Professional 3.0. Whilst
SoftAT was acceptably slow, the upgrade is just too slow! I am running the
software on a PB180. Has any one else had similar problems and is there a
way of speeding things up, or is my machine just too slow?

Tony D'Emanuele, University of Manchester.

------------------------------

Date: 04 Sep 93 18:56:42 EDT
From: Charlie Summers <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sony 1320 Monitor

Folks;

   Public thanks to [e-mail] (Steven Lee), [e-mail] (Eric
Burger), and [e-mail] (John A. Feinberg) for their replies to
my rather paniced plea re: Sony 1320 monitor and SE/30 with XCEED 24-bit
card.

   After reading their replies, and realizing it could be done, I ordered an
adaptor from MacWarehouse. It arrived today, but when I plugged it in, I
discovered it only shows blue!

   Armed with a multimeter, the XCEED board manual, and the manual to an
   Orchid
ProDesigner II VGA card, I checked the pinouts of the adaptor and discovered
the Red and the Green Ground lines were not connected...guess I'm gonna have
to
call 'em Tuesday!

     Charlie Summers

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1993 20:14:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Thoo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Speed Beep

Some digests ago (don't remember which) someone (don't remember who :-)
mentioned something about a utility called Speed Beep that, apparently,
lets a user assign specific alert sounds to various operations, e.g. file
copying.  An <archie> search for Speed Beep came up empty, so I'm
wondering if someone who has it might kindly upload a copy to <sumex-aim>
(assuming that that's permissible).  Thanks much.

--John.
<[e-mail]>    ``My _real_ word processor is FullWrite.''

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1993 20:01 EST
From: Don't Panic! <[e-mail]>
Subject: SpeedyFinder (Q)

Dear Netters,
What is the current release version of SpeedyFinder?  The latest I found at
Sumex-aim on September 5th
 was 1.5.4, but I thought last spring there was a 3.4.1 version?  I
had tried that 3.4.1 version only to find it incompatible with some of my
Extensions.  Or was that another Shareware?  Thank you.
Sincerely,
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 14:56:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Ted Goranson)
Subject: Startup Delay

I run 7.1 on a Quadra 800 with 40M RAM. After the startup sequence begins,
I have 63 icons marching across my screen. The problem is that about half
the time, between the startup sequence (while the happy mac face is
showing) there is a delay of sometimes 4-5 minutes. During this time, the hard
disk pulses. When things finally start, all is well. This occurs whether
hard or cold booted.

I should note that I often find catalog and b tree errors when scanning
with Norton and Public Utilities.

---Ted Goranson

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 03 Sep 93 13:24:15 EDT
From: "James A. Connolly" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Stiction solved (again!)

Thanks to all who responded to my "stiction" problem.

It was "easily" solved by turning the drive over and powering up.
I may ask Quantum about the ROM upgrade, or I may just go for one
of those new drives (like the Quantum 170s from LaCie).

Has anyone seen incredibly good deals on internal hard drives lately?
I'd certainly like to know...

                  ...James

[e-mail]      phone [phone]      fax [phone]

------------------------------

Date: 06 Sep 1993 07:11:13 +0100 (MET)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Switching between applications (Q)

Is there a shareware or PD tool that allows switching between applications by
a
keyboard command similar to the <Alt><Tab> of Mess Windoze?

Jens Eickhoff
([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: 04 Sep 1993 07:04:55 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Dwight Lemke @ Wisconsin Oshkosh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Text search

What would be the best utility for searching multiple text files for
text strings?

-Dwight

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 05:59:49 GMT
From: Sven Guckes <[e-mail]>
Subject: trash can won't un-swell

[e-mail] writes:

>I put an item in the trash, chose "empty," but the can is still swollen.
>Background trashing is off (I have CopyDoubler 2.0.1).

Try rebuilding yo...

>Rebuilding the desktop or restarting fixes the problem.

Oh, you've done that, have you?  :-)

>Do I have to reformat?

I hope not.
Could it be that there is an invisible file in your trash can?
Or has someone replaced all your trash can icons with those of a
"swollen" trash can?
Does the peoblem still exist after you restarted your system?

Sven :)

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 3 Sep 93 14:16:22 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Tom Metzger)
Subject: XXENCODE/XXDECODE available for Mac?

Recently, a friend of mine from California sent me four .GIF files that
represent a barbershop arrangement (for my quartet).  He uuencoded them,
and I have a utility to deal with that, but two of the four files were
corrupt.

He informs me that xxencoding is much more robust, and so I should look for
a utility to handle *that* to avoid future problems with music
transmission.  Does such an animal exist for Mac?  I've never heard of such
a thing, much less seen such a thing on any of the usual ftp sites.

Help, anyone?

Tom Metzger
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 4 Sep 93 14:07:18 BST
From: Yoram Ney <[e-mail]>

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest,connect.audit
Path: yoram
From: [e-mail] (Yoram Ney)
Subject: Cut And Paste (A)
Organization: The PC User Group, UK.
Distribution: connect
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 13:07:14 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Sender: [e-mail] (Yoram Ney)

> Is it possible to have two things cut without having to paste the
> first one, it's like having two cuts in the memory, or like having
> two clipboards. Is there an fkey, da, or extension, cdev that will
> allow me to have two or more things cut. Thanx.
>
> Priyajeev Trika [e-mail]


Yes there is. Not only there IS, but a fabulous piece of utility
too!!

MultiClip, from Olduvai Corp. You copy/cut as many items as you
like sequentialy. Then whenever you fancy, you start pasting. (you
hold the option key <or assign any other key combination> while
you're copying/cutting/pasting, and voila)! You can chose the paste
to work as a queue or as a stack i.e. paste in the order you
cut/copied or the reverse order - (aka FIFO or LIFO). - *IMMENSE*
power.

Also option+command-V pastes the clip off but leaves it accessible
in a scrapbook-like facility. Option-command-R pastes and deletes
the clip, just like the original Mac paste. - While this inevitibly
involves some maintenance of the multiclip file, it makes clips
power-failure/crash proof, and comprises copy+paste-to-scrapbook in
one operation.

I've been copying odd pieces of code from old source files,
switching to the new source file and pasting those bits in (instead
of numerous switch-copy-switch-paste's). I've been opening
Info-mac's 'all-files', copying sequentialy the names of the new
files I want to download, then when I'm done picking the files,
open a new document, paste the file-names in, and with a GREP or
two create a batch file that downloads the files in the background.
And so on!!!  - endless possibilities and benefits.

The one imperfectness of MC is that due to its somewhat unusual
nature (crossbreed of application and INIT), in some circumstances
it won't let you restart/shut-down, and since no natural way of
quiting MC is provided, you must force it to quit using
cmd-option-esc (don't remember how you do it in Sys 6).

Having said that,the version I recieved (2 months ago) is 2.17c of
*August '91*!!. They are supposed to be shipping a new version
(MultiClipPro 3.0) these very days; calling them about 2 weeks ago
they told me to (be a good boy and) wait patiently for my
upgrade-note within the first 10 days of September.

MacWeek's Don Crabb often mentions a list of the 'ten extensions
Apple should have incorporated into the OS' (or somesuch). I'd
certainly put MultiClip up for such a list!

Disclaimer!!!(In spite of the above sounding like I'm at *least*
Olduvai's marketting manager), I have no affiliation or any other
relation to Olduvai Corp other than bein a VERY happy user of
MultiClip (will be a even happier when it's integration into the
system gets better, - I presume in V3.0).

Hope this helps.

Yoram  <[e-mail]>

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